Homebuilt underwater robot

 

Brushless DC motor

Introduction

A brushless DC motor is electric engine where the stator is a classic 3 phase stator and the rotor has surface mounted permanent magnets. It is equivalent to a reversed DC commutator motor, in which the magnet rotates while the conductors remain stationary. BLDC motor has no commutator and brushes, it requires electronic control for operation. They often have external position sensors used by control unit, but sensorless control is also possible.

Where to find?

Very popular source of small BLDC motors are old CD-ROMs, floppy drives and streamers. To get more power from these small engines many people replace original magnets with strong neodyme magnets and rewind the winding. You should look for motors where housing and magnets rotate (they are easer to dismantle). Old CD-ROMs: Cheap source of brushless motorsOld CD-ROMs: Cheap source of brushless motors 3 types of BLDC motors: 5¼ floppy (biggest), streamer and CD-ROM (smallest)3 types of BLDC motors: 5¼ floppy (biggest), streamer and CD-ROM (smallest)

BLDC in underwater environment

In theory, you could put BLDC motor into water and it should work (assuming you isolate wire connections). Wires and stator are isolated. But in case of a mechanical damage, you can easily destroy isolation of wires (it is in fact an isolation paint). A better isolation is needed. The easiest solution is to put stator into epoxy. Compared to classic DC motor you only need to isolate stator! No o-rings nor magnetic couplers!

Summary

Advantages

  1. Magnetic coupler like isolation
  2. No gearbox, speed controlled by electronic unit
  3. Good size/power ratio
  4. Water cooling

Disadvantages

  1. Modifing CD-ROM/floppy motors can be tricky
  2. Need dedicated BLDC controller

My motor

My plan is to build complete engine for underwater wehicle based on modified CD-ROM motors. Propeller, stator and rotor: Incomplete motor with propellerPropeller, stator and rotor: Incomplete motor with propeller

Motor

  1. Replace original magnets with strong neodyme magnets
  2. Rewind
  3. Isolate stator
  4. new rotor and bearings (optional)

Controller

After examing BLDC projects aviable on the net I decided to build my own controller. See BLDC controller page for more details.

Step by step instruction

I did not build any working engine, so this description is not yet complete. Check this page time to time to find more details.

Preparation

Below is the list of items you need to modify CD-ROM motor:
  1. Old CD-ROM/DVD drives, cost 0€
  2. Small neodyme magnets, cost 1€ for 40
  3. Two types of glue:
    1. “Superglue” like, to quickly and temporary attach magnets to rotor, cost about 1€
    2. Epoxy glue, to permanently attach magnets to rotor, cost about 2.5€
  4. Optional lathe, to make own rotor or new bearings
  5. Hammer, vice, drill, screwdriver, etc.

Epoxy glue: 2 components glue, permanently attaches magnets to rotorEpoxy glue: 2 components glue, permanently attaches magnets to rotor Superglue: To temporary and fast attach magnets to rotorSuperglue: To temporary and fast attach magnets to rotor

Removing motor from CD-ROM

That is easy part. Use screwdriver and remove motor that spins the disk. It is always located exactly in the centre of the box. All parts can be dissasembled using only screwdriver, you do not need to use hammer or things like that.

CD-ROM without casing: First step to get the motor from CD-ROM driveCD-ROM without casing: First step to get the motor from CD-ROM drive

CD-ROM parts: Motors and lasers from 3 different types of CD-ROMsCD-ROM parts: Motors and lasers from 3 different types of CD-ROMs

3 motors: BLDC motors from different CD-ROMs3 motors: BLDC motors from different CD-ROMs

Motors bottom view: BLDC motors bottom viewMotors bottom view: BLDC motors bottom view

Dissasembling motor

This is the moment you can use the hammer and vice. Motor has no servicable parts, so brutal force is the only method that can be used. The best method is to use vice and additional tools to slowly separate parts. If you use hammer, use it “softly” in a way you do not damage bearings or stator. It is very important that you do not damage stator, it is the only part that can not be replaced.

Motor in a vice: The best method to dissasemble motor.Motor in a vice: The best method to dissasemble motor.

Motor PCB: Base PCB with stator (rotor removed). There are 3 small Hall sensords on the right, close to stator.Motor PCB: Base PCB with stator (rotor removed). There are 3 small Hall sensords on the right, close to stator.

BLDC motor in two parts: Separated rotor and stator from CD-ROM driveBLDC motor in two parts: Separated rotor and stator from CD-ROM drive

Motor without PCB: PCB was separated form statorMotor without PCB: PCB was separated form stator

All parts of motor: Separate parts of CD-ROM motor.All parts of motor: Separate parts of CD-ROM motor.

Usefull BLDC parts: Separate BLDC parts, stator without wires.Usefull BLDC parts: Separate BLDC parts, stator without wires.

Usefull partsUsefull parts

Streamer BLDC: Dissasembled streamer motorStreamer BLDC: Dissasembled streamer motor

Replacing magnets

First remove old magnet from rotor. Original magnet is gum like substance, so it is easy to remove it with screwdriver. In place of original magnet, place a numer of strong neodyme magnets. You must select size of magnets to fit properly empty place. Air gap should be minimal. I use 5x5x1mm magnets. Number of used magnets must be choosen carefully, see link sections to read more. 3 types of small magnets on EURO coin: 5x5x1mm, 5x5x2.5mm, 10x5x1mm3 types of small magnets on EURO coin: 5x5x1mm, 5x5x2.5mm, 10x5x1mm 5x5x1mm magnet: Neodyme magnet on the finger5x5x1mm magnet: Neodyme magnet on the finger

Old magnet: Original magnet removed form rotorOld magnet: Original magnet removed form rotor

New magnets inside rotor: Temporary attached magnets inside rotorNew magnets inside rotor: Temporary attached magnets inside rotor

New winding

Direct link to Excel winding calculator. Stator: Stator without wires (CD-ROM)Stator: Stator without wires (CD-ROM) 2 Stators: Floppy and streamer stators with wires2 Stators: Floppy and streamer stators with wires

Links

Unfortunately most of the brushless pages is in German language. But pictures and diagrams are still readable.

RC Controllers

  1. BLMC controller
  2. Speedy BL
  3. SBL Micro V2
  4. Tornado controller (German only)

Amateur BLDC

  1. lrk-torquemax Yahoo group
  2. Hermann von der Haar site (German only) and brushless section. Has many usefull tolls!
  3. LRK Site Theory and practice; uff, not German
  4. Polish/German/some English CD-ROM conversion site, has a lot of pictures